franchi momentum elite vs tikka t3

I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Im looking at the Waypoint now. Excellent 3/4 MOA accuracy with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo, QD Flush cups and picatinny embedded in the stock, Available in all the most popular chamberings for custom rifles (including 7 PRC), I personally would have preferred that they went with a more modern vertical grip, I wish there were an arca rail on the bottom of the forend for connecting to a tripod. Performance is really good. Jim, I like the action of the Howa better but the Proof barrel on the Savage. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). I dont say that lightly. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. Hello Jim, Your videos and information are amazing. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. Anyway, sorry but I dont have much experience with it. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. Esp in 7mm-08. I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. I like the cleaner lines without the mag sticking out. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. **sorry for posting this comment on another article, but I guess this is the more suitable article for this discussion. I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. Thanks for doing great work. CVA all the way. Savage, Tikka, Browning, Christensen- all offer LH options and should be commended for it. Thank you for your time and effort. Purchased an Sig Cross in 6.5 today. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. I'm looking at it in 300 win mag. under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. In fact, I did a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American. These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Why I Picked These Three Rifles Over the Competition. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. And contrary to most German rifles today, the barrel is threaded into the reciever (not heat shrunk). A lot of older rifles are very superior to these entry level rifles. You mentioned it once but I cant find a video where you review it? Now they are North of $400. It doesnt handle recoil well because of the stock design. (1) The Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, (2) You could wait a few months for the new Bergara B14 Squared Crest to come out, or (3) Get a Sig Cross. First let me say your videos are absolutely fantastic. Im at a point that I can spend $1500+ for a hunting rifle. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Removable e Box Magazine (Large Capacity) Italian? As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. Its a great rifle for heavier cartridges. Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. Really enjoy your content! The Weatherby Vanguard Meateater edition comes with Cerakote, threaded barrel, stiff stock and a pretty decent 2 stage trigger. Holy Moses, what an incredible rifle. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. So far really like it FYI. Weight: 6.6 pounds The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. Unlocking the Momentums bolt took more effort than a typical Remington 700. To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. Ive shot heavier .308s with more felt recoil than this guy. Glad that rifle is a shooter. These are incredible results from a rifle with an MSRP barely over $600! All things equal There is one drawback to the Tikka T3x Lite. Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. The Weatherby Vanguard comes in several different editions. killed three whitetail with it this past season. I just purchased a Rival this week. 5. The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? Ive got a lot of autoloader pistol and AR experience, but my only bolt action is an old Mosin Nagant. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. Having said that, in this price range, a lot of the decision is matching the rifle to your unique circumstances and preferences. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. Very accurate, handles recoil well, and easily in your price point with room to spare. All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. Its hard to find info anywhere on it. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. Both have NO bolt lock when on safety. One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. Franchi Momentum .350 Legend Threaded 24" Bbl FDE BA Rifle 41562. Or, even better if your choice cost less. I just took the first shots with the Winchester XPR in 6.8 Western today. The stock and barrel is nothing special unless someone could chime in as to why it is different than all the others plastic stocks? Your email address will not be published. 180 gr Remington tipped core lokt and its in the bullseye out to 400. I cannot give a better example than that. The need for fast follow up shots, I know with practice a bolt action is fast, but I also dont want to break my right hand grip on the gun and trigger. Thanks. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. Since Bergara use a Rem 700 barrel (action and trigger too?) It has the accufit system but they did not put it in that rifle I assume its to save weight. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Sure, you can have better fit and finish, but it costs more. Overall Length: 42.3 inches I am looking to buy a Savage 110 Timberline in 300 win mag, what is opinion about it ? Specifically, I am looking at 300 PRC and .28 Nolser, or 300 Weatherby Magnum. Seekins is another I looked into but judging by the lack of representation in reviews I\m not confident in it either. Suppressors are DEFINITELY the future, so I wouldnt buy a non-threaded barrel anymore. Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. I purchased a 280 AI in a Mark V Weatherby instead. I have my moments of trigger snobbery, but if I owned a Momentum I wouldnt spend money seeking a trigger upgrade or smithing work. enything under 2k. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. The forend felt fat and a bit chunky, and the detachable mag looks like it could get in the way when carrying, hunting, using rests, etc. Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Again a super nice old world crafted gun anyone would be proud to own and show off to friends. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores. Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. Im really down to the Fierce Carbon Rival vs the Weatherby MarkV Backcountry. I think I will try to pick one up next week, in either a .308 or .300. It talks about every calibre Savage Arms is selling in Canada but dont talk about calibre I purchased. I would love those see a review of the Benelli Lupo.Ive been shooting mine for little while now and I have to say it is a very accurate hunting rifle with a great ability to conform to just about anybody.Hope to see a review in the near future.Da Butcher. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. Im looking at my first hunter and precision rifle that I can take to the range once a month and go on 2 or 3 hunting trips per year (pig/deer) mostly in California or surrounding states. It seems to boast a sturdier stock. Ill use my customized REM 700 in 300 win mag for elk. Its a Howa 1500 action in their own pretty cool stock. Manse, he actually has a point this time. Its not for me. Vlad I have no idea who you are but you sure do make a lot of noise and a lot less sense. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. Thank you! First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Ive fallen in love. I do like the Weatherby rifles as well as Tikkas. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. . Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Likely sub-half-MOA. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. Keep up the great work. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. Thanks for your time Jim, love the channel! Really enjoy your advice and reviews on guns and equipment, I appreciate your opinions. Looking past your racism when you buy once and buy quality you never cry about it, your just damn glad you made the right decision because often a lost opportunity is just that, it never comes again in life. . I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. I would love a 300 Win Mag. Ive been looking at the varment line in a 6.5 cm. Hear hear. Available in six calibers, TTAG gave the $609 MSRP .308 Winchester flavor a test drive. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. Hi There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. Iv shot most all They need to get their stuff together first. Stock: A carbon version of Bergaras excellent HMR stock. Great choices, Andrew. He missed the entire point of the product to rant about what great deals can be had on old guns. Push it flush with the inside of the trigger guard, and . A lot of states dont allow semi-autos for big game hunting so check your regs. Hey Jim, Meet the Franchi Momentum Bolt-Action Rifle. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. Took my buck at 325 shooting Federal Premium 110gr bullets. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. Man I really love your reviews! If youre patient and know what youre doing. However, Ill simply leave this anecdote. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. Great comment, Frank. Regards kjetil A B Strandengen. Vlad is typical progtard. Ive owned a Lupo chambered in 30-06 for several months now. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. $599.99. I\m a big fan of your videos and expertise. Would like a rifle that print a sub MOA with factory ammo. Even on safe, the bolt can be manipulated to chamber or eject a round. I appreciate your knowledge and insight. Could you add another tier or two? I have Burris rings for a Tikka T3 base which are basically the same as the Zee rings. You havent included Winchester in your reviews. The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Ive narrowed it to 3, but just cant quite choose. Franchi Momentum .308 Win Threaded 22" Bbl Htr Gry BA Rifle 41533. Its become a turn off. I too had nailed it down to the Savage or the Ruger American Rifle. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. Required fields are marked *. The controlled-round feed action is great. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. Amway if anyone has one opinions please. love the mauser style trigger guard/magazine. Ive narrowed it down to a Sig Cross in 6.5, a JTAC Screech Owl in 6.5 22 barrel. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Love the guns review vid on ones under $500 and everything else! and not hold up good with the recoil? I went ahead and ordered a scope today, I had a leupold vx5 3x15 and sent it back, and today I ordered a Burris Signature HD 3x15, so I will see how they compare. Thanks for your thoughts and time! Capacity: 4+1 Yes, thats five rounds as always. You mention that you felt the Browning X-Bolt Pro was not a good fit for a heavy recoil gun. Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. Thanks. XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. I would really like one in one of the 7mm flavors. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Its just tough to get excited about because it has no single stand-out feature. $699.00. Hi Jim, Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. Keep up the great work. For my boy. Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. Is the Sako worth the that premium price though? Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. Great reviews, but nothing on the Browning AB3? Store. Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. Have you heard any news about springfield adding additional calibers for it? I saw you also mentioned something coming at Shotshow but did not see if you talked about this yet. To my surprise John Mogle responded and told me to send in my gun and they would replace the barrel and fix the problem. Ha! It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. Hey there Jim. Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I love to hunt white tail deer in Arkansas. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. The only problem with a Springfield 2020 Waypoint is they dont offer it in enough chamberings. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. Its way more fun to shoot than the other guns. I agree with you. Why no ones talk about the sakos in the states?? Any opinion on it? I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. Im surprised it didnt make the list. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. The build quality was amazing, and shot sub MOA with factory Norma ammo. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. Availability might be part of the problem. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. LOL. I really like the stock design. Ill be using it in the Southern Rockies for context. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Zero quality control issues. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. Moving back-to-front, things start out with a cushy rubber recoil pad. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. Great review. Savage 110? Thank you. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. A 60 degree bolt lift that makes second fast shots from the shoulder a complete impossibility. 80lbs maybe. What do you think of the Bergara B14 HMR? They do have a more expensive option for a titanium action that is even lighter, but I feel the titanium actions just arent as smooth in the hand. I also like the Fierce Reaper and the Sako S20 for heavy-recoiling cartridges. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. How is it Franchis fault again? I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? when buying a boltaction rifle to be used for hunting,do you prefer a safety that locks the bolt down,or one that allows you to work the action.I prefer the type that locks the bolt. I know I have expediencies it. Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Would you take the Waypoint over the Seekins? Cheers. (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Jim, With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. With a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope mounted on Leupold dual dovetail rings and loaded with a maximum of five rounds of ammunition, the Momentum I tested weighed almost exactly eight poundslight enough to carry on long hikes through steep country but not unpleasant to shoot. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. I have fond memories of my Weatherby, but the last few years its spent more time in my gun safe while I pack smaller calibers. It is their lowest entry point to their rifles but looks interesting. Fierce Rival I really like my Fierce Rival chambered in 6.5 PRC.

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