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The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Hi Neil. Hi Neil. Jones was released from prison in December of 1941, so he was a free man when Muriel was killed. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. will do what you suggest. I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. Officers are now examining a semen stain on Muriel's coat to see if it can be linked to Jones. Hard to work out the logic of your comment Charlotte? Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. Click here to hear the Audio File of this case. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. I am making a F.O.I. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater ,[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. [9] Detectives from Scotland Yard came to Swansea to assist in the investigation. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. The police have a Y-STR profile from Muriels coat. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. The D.N.A. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. "My grandparents changed completely. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Required fields are marked *. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Just put my name in Facebook bar. [16][17], In 2010, the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Council on National Records and Archives closed off public access to the case, acting at the behest of Scotland Yard. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. "Each case is reviewed periodically. But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Sadly though, this has proved not to be. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Hi Sherlock. Lloyd-Evans told me that he was convinced that a suspect regarding Muriels murder would soon be identified through D.N.A. Advertisement. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. Sorry I doubled up on some of the above but cant edit it. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. This forensic approach is becoming more common. ~ Christine. My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. 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In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. ADVERTISEMENT BY ANCESTRY.COM. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. [citation needed], In 2009, Welsh police began reinvestigating any link with the murder of 11-year-old Sheila Martin, who was raped and strangled 250 miles away in Sun Hill Wood, Fawkham Green, Kent, on 7 July 1946, ten days after Drinkwater's murder. Request number 772/21. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. Have a great week! Was a local stalking Muriel? [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. ~ Christine. profiling. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. . On this podcast episode, we cover the unsolved cold case of Muriel Drinkwater. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. Something went wrong, please try again later. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. Regards. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Colin Dark suggested the possibillity of using D.N.A to identify who took the books into the shop with the hope of identifying the killer. It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. If you have any information about Muriels murder, please contact the South Wales Policevia email at[emailprotected], Mystery of 1946 murder in woods BBC News article, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. Advertisement. programme called Crime Secrets presented by H.T.Vs Jonathan Hill. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. She goes to grammar school. In 2008,Detective Chief Inspector Paul Bethell located Muriels blue coat, underwear, and school uniform in police storage. Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Adding: Please may I make a comment that the information that I request would be available via computer in an instant. Oftentimes the public wonders why resources should be allocated to cold cases such as Muriels, cases in which most of victims immediate family, and even the perpetrator, are likely dead. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. Thank you so much for this detailed update. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. Learn more about managing a memorial . If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! All Rights Reserved. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. There is no doubt about that.". I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. There are, of course, other theories regarding who was lying in wait on that fateful day. Just a few thoughts, so we can deduce its a man, not too young to be weaker than Muriel, not to old because they would be frail, so we are saying middle aged man in 1946. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. In August, the police appealed to the U.S. public for assistance, as many Americans had been stationed in Penllergaer during the recent Second World War and there was a possibility one of the servicemen had sold the weapon. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. Play it now! Regards. - Listen to The Unsolved Murder of Muriel Drinkwater by The True Crime Files instantly on your tablet, phone or browser - no downloads needed. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. Neil Milkins. The 12 year old loved to sing and there was a skip in her step as she started on the winding path through the forest. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. Hi James. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Muriel, who lived on Tyle-Du farm at Penllergaer, near Swansea, went missing on Thursday, June 27th, 1946, and her body was found next day in Penllergaer woods. Thanks again and take care. 2023 The True Crime Files. Video, 00:01:20WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. Thanks again and take care. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. I contacted Detective Superintendent Martyn Lloyd-Evans (now retired) of South Wales Police by phone and had a friendly conversation with him about Victor Penalunas suspicions. Something went wrong, please try again later. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Norah Irene Bartlett. Interesting case Christine. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. Her murder became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater 's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. from Ron Harries and his cousin and from Muriels coat and yet are not releasing the results of the tests. She was pulled from that path into the woodland beside it, attacked and murdered amongst the undergrowth of Penllergaer Woods, near Swansea, just yards from safety. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Video, 00:00:36, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. with South Wales Police has recently conceded that it CANNOT be categorically stated that Harold Jones has been ruled out completely as Muriels killer. She was shot twice in the chest. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. I wonder if there was a sketch done when Hoyles confronted a man weeks earlier. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Who sodomises a 12 year old girl and batters her about the head, then shoots her twice in the chest? true crime. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Neil. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Although the decision was made immediately it took nearly 7 weeks until 16 August 2021 to get a formal decision. Video, 00:01:00View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. A moment later, Muriels path wound into a thickly wooded area, and her mother returned to her chores in the kitchen. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. [10], Police visited every house within 150 square miles and interviewed 20,000 men in Swansea and in neighbouring Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. [8][4] Policemen from Glamorgan, assisted by the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit, used a metal detector to search for a second weapon suspected to have been used, but never located it. A team of crime experts have re-investigated the brutal killing 74 years ago and uncovered what they believe to be firm new leads in the search for who killed her, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Thank you for listening to this episode of The True Crime Files. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. Some people turn to the murder weapon for answers and suggest that the killer was either an American serviceman who had previously been stationed at Penllergaer or that an American soldier may have sold the gun to the perpetrator in the village. Or was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time? Her mother seen her approaching 400 yards away, so perhaps she was a selected victim. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . And I also think there are likely more victims. He said, ``She was regularly seen walking, skipping and singing in the woods as she made her way each day from her home to the . All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Why? She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. 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As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Hey Babes!I'm back with another True Crime Tuesday case and todays case is about the murder of Muriel Drinkwater also known as the little red riding hood mur. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. Thanks again for sharing this. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts had a major breakthrough when they found a semen stain on Muriel's coat. ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. She was still wearing her school uniform. I think it will be at least 3 months before anything definite will be announced. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. But wonder what they are trying to extract D.N.A a mystery using the edit button below I. 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