Unlike the bulky Elementals, this new breed would need to be smaller so that they would be able to fit into the cramped confines of a ProtoMech's torso. The Reinforcements: Clan Invasion boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 36 x 22 full-color game map focused on Twycross. Answer (1 of 2): Hard to answer. Clan Coyote and Clan Blood Spirit were among the first to adopt the ProtoMech and pursue its development with enthusiasm, the Spirits especially, as they suffered a big lack of resources. The game can be played on essentially any terrain. BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat. 1,471,925 C-bills Technical specifications 'Mech type Inner Sphere BattleMech Mass 30 tons Chassis Republic-R Armor Durallex Medium Engine Leenex 60 Communications System Dalban Interact Targeting Tracking System Dalban Urban Heat Sinks 11 single Speed 32 km/h Jump Jets Pitban 6000 Armament 1x AC/10 1x small laser BV (1.0) 454 BV (2.0) 504[1][2] (Disregarding the autocannon for the purpose of this discussion.) generally, the differences between lights and assualts hasn't been height, it has been width and general bulk.. assualt mechs tend to be chunkier, with thicker body parts, more barrel shaped chest areas, etc. [2], It was not until the development of the Enhanced Imaging (EI) system by Clan scientists that the ProtoMech concept became a viable one. -Moonsword. His outrage at having been uninformed about the secret project was tempered by his Clan's dire needs and the good performance of the ProtoMechs against desperate odds. As published, BattleTech mapsheets have terrain, including vegetation, hydrologic features and topography marked. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. Space Pirate Captain Haarlock. In comparison to others are battletech ships to small? Besides six individual maps, the MapPack Flatlands Terrain Set was published that combined those six maps for a lower price. 1. turn off vsync in btech settings and Set vsync to fast and go max performance options in either nVidia control panel or AMD control panel. When there is, the CGLs tend to run a little larger. I try not to think about it to much. 1st Battalion, 91st Royal Battlemech Regiment, 26th Light Brigade Combat Team, 61st Infantry Division, XXVII Corps, Eleventh Army, SLDF. At the same time, Smoke Jaguar geneticists began the task of creating a suitable breed of pilot. I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. FanPro product #10990, released in 2003. it's a bit comforting knowing that to fire we're a same color- flammable. The "Open Terrain #1" map was identical to the "Open Terrain" map previously published in the first Map Set, albeit printed on paper instead of cardboard. I never worry about the cannon of things until that cannon is pointed in my direction. German edition published in 1997 as "GeoTech IV" (see below). For example, when the ProtoMech's arm is torn off, the pilot feels a great deal of pain, almost as their own arm had been ripped away. It's like saying "hey! It has no impact on gameplay. I spend way too much time zooming in on stuff. They are also easy to store and transport. Since this product was not published directly by a BattleTech IP owner or licensee, its status as an official product is arguable. The official height of a Mech has always been a discussion point, some official products have given different heights for certain Mechs, licenced products (like computer games) have given a plethora of conflicting heights for Mechs, and the official miniatures are so out of scale that it isn't funny. when just looking at the two together you know it's not true. [3], However, the problem of finding suitable pilots was harder to overcome. And it looks like they accidentally cut off part of the M-5 Caspar's aft end. As luck would have it, the decision proved fortuitous: Clan aerospace pilots' small bodies allowed them to easily fit inside the cockpit of a ProtoMech, while their brains and circulatory systems, bred to withstand high-G maneuvering, could better endure the negative side effects associated with the EI system. Hell, it's pretty much common knowledge thats a load. ProtoMech armor is more efficient in terms of its weight-to-protection ratio compared to 'Mech armor due to the reduced surface areas involved and advanced composite material used in its construction; the heaviest ProtoMechs can boast almost as much protection as some light 'Mechs. Image size. There's a human figure inserted for comparison. When is wave 2 happening? The ability to give the pilot direct neural control eliminated the need for a gyroscope and full-sized cockpit. I keep hearing about it but not dates. Basically, it needs to be big enough to fit the cockpit and engine/gyro. The Clan Invasion boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps. ProtoMechs can carry most of the same weapons and equipment as found on 'Mechs, although instead of carrying standard missile launchers they mount groups of missile tubes together. Its available in a bunch of colors, easy to fold and transport. For Classic Battletech, I think most "standard" games use Battle Value 2 (BV2). Create maps that suit your needs. The physical maps are thick cardboard maps akin to those from the latest boxed sets and Hex Packs, with one of the classic game maps printed on either side. Standing only half the height of a BattleMech, the smaller units would mass only one-tenth that of the larger machines. Huge difference, since the clix are about twice as large. Most Protos have a "main gun", a single weapon or piece of equipment of any weight which is braced to the torso but aimed and fired with their hands. Mechs (height) Light => Commando (25 ton) = 9m Medium => Enforcer (50 ton) = 12m Heavy => Grashopper (70 ton) = 14m Assault => Banshee (95 ton) = 15.2m Vehicles (length) BattleTech MegaMat Display at Gen Con 2021. Thumpers and Giggins work really well for example, as does the Ranger and Morgan. We have an interrogation to attend to." I just finished my 8th one, and I'm considering giving 2in hexes a try. This page was last edited on 3 December 2022, at 07:42. In BattleTech, spacegoing WarShips are often classified with the following terms, based on their role. You can also get them printed, as is via Poster Print factor linked on the thread with less modification. FanPro product #35012, released in 2005. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The Centurion mapsheets fold out to the equivalent of two BattleTech maps. The sympathetic bond between man and machine can also lead to a kind of "god complex" in which the pilot feels as though they are unstoppable. Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. It's your world. I love hexes waaay too much to ditch them. Classic BattleTech (board game)map Original 1984 Battledroidsmap The standard mapsheet layout has remained unchanged from the original Battledroidsedition through to the latest editions, though there have been cosmetic changes. So I went on and drew my own maps. This page was last edited on 24 February 2023, at 15:28. [6][7][8] The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). In addition, there are a number of monikers that arguably fall between class and role definitions. Hardware-Handbuch 3031) was completely left out in this.The German version is printed as DIN A4, a standard European paper size . "There's a difference between the soldier and his fight. Scale in battletech miniatures is an iffy thing, even within figures made within a similar time frame, I wouldn't fret about it too much. ~Orin J. GeoTech I, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 2), GeoTech II, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 3), GeoTech III, 1993 (German edition of Map Set 4), GeoTech IV, 1997 (German edition of Map Set 5). I could've sworn there was a "line up" of a mech and several dropships do demonstrate the differences in their sizes, but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Includes the maps from Map Sets 5 and 6, plus Planetary Assault Maps 1 and 2 from BattleForce 2 and the BattleSpace map. Walking the fine line between sarcasm and being a smart-ass. During the Dark Age the ProtoMech appears to be used exclusively by Clan units. Maps included: Large Mountain #1, Deep Canyon #1 (double-sided). You Need Space To Shine So what does a cannon need to lob a round as far as it can? I love this infographic. There are fifteen columns, 01XX through 15XX, and there are nominally 17 rows, XX01 through XX17. Similarly, the mapsheets in the Solaris VII game represent only 7.5 meters of ground distance, a quarter of the scale of standard BattleTech. Terrain rules. The Problem with those Side by Side Graphs is that it's a 2D picture of a 3D Model. Terrain is a big investment in space and money. Three months later five more maps and the MapPack Hill Terrain Set (including the five new maps and the Desert Hills map that had already been part of the previous set) were published. BattleTroops was one notable departure from this printing convention, instead using a layout of points in a triangular (or arguably hexagonal) pattern rather than a hex-grid. A high-quality neoprene extra-large map set, with one mega-sized, 72 x 48" double-sided BattleMat. Overview. Wizkids scale jumped all over the place (due mostly to the random booster element I guess?) The latter was the site of a large battle and is meant for playing on a different scale akin to BattleForce. They get bigger and bigger. Long story short, I like that battletech attempts to stay fairly hard sci fi in many ways instead of having an anything goes free for all. Dubbed ProtoMechs, the ultimate goal of these machines was for a Point of five, working in unison, to be as effective as a BattleMech, while requiring less than half the amount of construction resources. About 8 to 14 meters, depending on the 'Mech. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech II" (see below). (see Other maps below)The 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set and Hex Pack: Lakes and Rivers were the first products to feature a new generation of thick, vinyl covered double-sided map boards from 2010 onwards. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. I am sure this is on here somewhere but I am to tired and lazy to look. Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. Certainly if you took all the art, even just out of '39 or '25, and stacked them all so that they're all around same head height, I would believe it. (The BattleTech 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set may have been intended to be the first product featuring these improved maps, but its release was delayed until 2011 by other issues.). The "Woodland" map was first published with BattlePack: Fourth Succession War in 1998 before it was included in Map Set #6 two years later. Batter might be a bit messy, although you could make pancakes after, I suppose. So youre free to refer to the general size comparison chart from TRO3039, use any of the video-game based charts available or make up a scale that you feel is sensible on your own. The Raven and Uziel are small enough to pass muster, but most of the rest are too big. Due to their size and tonnage, ProtoMech weapon loadouts are somewhere between that of battle armor and 'Mechs. Windows Installation. The big jump was from PGI for MWO, and this game uses those models with a x1.25 modifier on their size. According to Strategic Operations, page 10, WarShip classes are roughly defined as follows: Other subclasses or designations exist, such as "troop cruiser" or "pursuit cruiser", though they can usually be placed in one of the above classes. Quote from: Jim1701 on 12 May 2011, 13:40:14, Quote from: Cergorach on 12 May 2011, 14:22:32, Quote from: Lafeel on 12 May 2011, 15:03:38, Quote from: A. Lurker on 12 May 2011, 14:04:25, Quote from: Demon55 on 12 May 2011, 15:10:19, Quote from: ANS Kamas P81 on 13 February 2018, 05:03:32, Quote from: Charlie Tango on 12 May 2011, 15:09:32, Quote from: SteelRaven on 14 February 2018, 00:31:56, Quote from: Weirdo on 17 May 2013, 13:24:25, Quote from: jklantern on 18 November 2014, 23:27:02, Quote from: YingJanshi on 14 February 2018, 01:18:34, Quote from: Daemion on 14 February 2018, 02:14:23. FASA product #1618. This page was last edited on 4 February 2023, at 22:56. Or for something a little easier to work with: middle right edge. [citation needed]. 3. add battletech.exe process to exclusion list for windows defender. So now enter the "General Size Comparison Chart" from Technical Readout: 3039 (2009), that's pretty recent. when playing on other hex terrain), one "board" translates as 17 hexes for determining range. Damn that is a massive difference, glad I didn't decide to put a bid on the set that I saw online. It is shorter in height than most BT hovers but once elevated on a base I think it will not be very noticeable. For nearly a day and a half we were an island of resistance in a sea of Falcon Green. The Solaris VII: The Game World boxed set, published in 1991, included maps for five arenas (with one arena requiring two sheets), one for each of the major houses. A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. So 4v4/5v5 is two maps, 8v8/10v10 is four maps, 12v12/15v15 is six maps, etc. You could also put plexiglas or lexan over the top for additional $. Beyond the boxed sets and dedicated map packs, some other individual products include boardgame mapsheets with hexes. A map set focused on unusual biomes, with two double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. I was disappointed in Ironwind's official infantry and found this supplier to be superior in quantity, price, scale, and quality: https://www.pfc-cinc.com/solar_empire_marines.html A lot of series go big and never really explain it or do anything with it. So other ones will look here first. As a result they are depicted as being something like twice as big today as they were originally. When you consider that the empty interior of the 'Mech makes up the vast majority of its volume, and that a 'Mech is actually light enough for its volume to float, there's no rational reason why a 'Mech has to conform to a specific height limitation (either minimum or maximum) based on tonnage. [1] I still wake up screaming when I think about the infamous warlord. Most infantry work pretty well, and their bases are practically the same size as a hex, if you don't feel like rebasing. When Task Force Serpent first encountered ProtoMechs during the Battle of Huntress, they were completely unknown, and the task force gave them designations in the field. evilauthor. So if you're playing a lance-on-lance game, two mapsheets should be enough, with a third if you want more maneuvering space. When imagining the Battletech universe (or any sci-fi setting) it isn't how things work that are the problem, it's how things look that is the issue. [4] Other "volunteers" were obtained by a Trial of Possession with Clan Jade Falcon, where the Jaguars won and adopted several solahma aerospace pilots. The first HexPack (occasionally also spelled as two words: "Hex Pack") was released in 2010 and heralded a new style for maps, which were now printed on thick, double-sided gameboard-style cardboard with vinyl covering, with different maps printed on the two sides. A map set focused on the Battle of Tukayyid, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. A HumVee is as heavy and big as a tank!" I like using cheap poster frames for two and four maps. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. If we measure the 'standard' man at ~1.8m tall (and the height of the Dropships confirms that approximation) we get heights for the Mechs listed. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on unusual biomes, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMats. Is there any size difference between the Clix WotC versions and the pewter IWM and Fasa ones? Using the original mapsheet art, and sized for compatibility with the original printed sheets and newer Hex Packs alike, they are meant as a PDF game aid to be printed out as required. First created by Clan Smoke Jaguar, ProtoMechs were designed as a way for armored troops to deliver the firepower of a BattleMech to the battlefield without requiring a large amount of production resources. It may not display this or other websites correctly. FASA product #1638, released in 1991. I dimly recall 12m. Some, like the Siren, use their high speed for recon work. (These vessels fall into the WarShip category for technical reasons, but are not intended to be used as combat vessels. But vinyl maps are less awesome. #1 How does the mechwarrior figs compare in size to the regular Battletech guys ? up until the first edition of Map Set 2) the BattleTech maps were printed on thick cardboard similar to the maps included with the BattleTech 2nd Edition and CityTech boxed sets.Starting with the second edition of Map Set 2 (1991) and the BattleTech, Third Edition (1992) boxed set, maps were printed on thinner paper. When the BMR said Mechs averaged between 10 and 12 meters, I strongly took them at their word, meaning only a handful of designs broke the mold. A Gundam is 18 meters. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time, Konrad ' Hengist " Littman Highlander 732b. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. Sets with other playing maps were later produced as game supplements. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. The maps retained their English names, but the markings on the maps are in German. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on aerospace, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Additionally there is an unaddressed half hex column on the sides of the mapsheet that make up a "sixteenth column" when multiple mapsheets are tiled. Additionally, the Proto's small size makes it harder to hit, and even if it loses an arm or head the unit can remain combat effective. You have two different universes with two different design parameters. This gave room for the pilot to ride in the torso while still allowing ample space for weapons. The printed size of a standard mapsheet is 22 inches by 18 inches (not 22 by 17 as many rulebooks suggest). It's a gator with a nuke, whats the problem. 1:285 (6mm people size) works great for Battletech, though the Kickstarter appears to be shooting for something slightly bigger now. In the classic BattleTech board game, as well as in most other games set in the BattleTech universe, the main gameplay takes place on a mapsheet with hexagonal playing fields. Similar to how Victor managed to behead the Jaguar Khan. Various fan organizations and third parties have created custom mapsheets for tournaments or general gaming. Warhammer 40,000has some insanely huge ships, but then you see that theyre run by huge crews basically moving ordnance around by hand. German edition published in 1993 as "GeoTech III" (see below). Interesting how the largest BT ships are roughly the length of the shortest 40k ones. They may become reluctant to leave their machine, and may even start to believe the ProtoMech is their own body.[14]. Meaning, you won't even see them if they walk around in downtown Manhattan. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon. Also benefits from 3d terrain on top/books under. Mechs are tall and bigbut scaleing on the minis are nowhere near exact. Your enemies might be hard to detect from orbit, so you need mechs on the ground to call in targets. . BattleTech - The Board Game of Armored Combat, Quote from: Delta_Ice on 06 October 2011, 23:35:09, Quote from: Lord Cameron on 07 October 2011, 12:17:39, Quote from: whiteshadowzo on 07 October 2011, 13:25:52, Quote from: Sigma on 08 October 2011, 01:10:48, Quote from: krazzyharry on 08 October 2011, 18:56:31, Quote from: Lorcan Nagle on 08 October 2011, 17:24:05, Quote from: Talz on 08 October 2011, 19:31:06, Quote from: Weirdo on 09 October 2011, 10:38:02, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 13:16:47, Quote from: Wikkid on 02 January 2015, 13:34:47, Quote from: Col.Hengist on 02 January 2015, 16:10:55, Quote from: Greywind on 02 January 2015, 16:03:33. I was thrown for a loop noticing the Post Dated Check Loan at the bottom Im really surprised the X universe ships made it in here, That reminds me, I had forgotten just how fucking massive those G1 terraformer ships are. Btech scale jumps around less but tries to stay around 1:285 if it can. Of course, the size of the 3D printed BattleTech miniatures mainly depends on the size of the terrain you are using for tabletop games. You could also put plexiglas or lexan over the top for additional $. After the Great Refusal and the destruction of the Smoke Jaguars, many Clans launched raids on Huntress in order to acquire the technology for their own purposes. That said, I've mostly seen references to 6mm scale in battletech forums and websites selling battletech terrain. Even more so when the subject is infantry carriers. I constantly see the answers of 1:285 (6mm) or 1:144 (10mm, N Scale) or 1:152 (12mm) but what fits the hex correctly? Not all mechs are the same. Some hobbyists love to build giant terrains where even 1/100 scale mechs would look relatively small. the novels describe the height as 10 meters (32.8 feet). Kinda bummed they didn't include the real big ship class from 40k, though. I'm assuming you mean the WizKids "Clix" versions and the IWM versions? "The rules technically allow all sorts of bad ideas." Falls under "quality control". While compatible with BattleTech map topology, the hexes on the Centurion map are printed slightly larger so that the mapsheets from the two games do not align. Jump distance is 200 meters , so impr. Im mostly interested in the 3039 era mechs. The thing that binds most official direct sources of height is that almost all of them are pretty old. I'd stick to neoprene maps. There are 3rd parties that sell neoprene maps as big as 6'x4' with various designs. If both players are using them, it should work just fine. Several hex maps have been released for various arenas on Solaris VII. There is a lot of conflicting information on how tall battlemechs are, and no sources explicitly state the exact height of any mechs. Taking over the Universe one mapsheet at a time. Well miniatures are a different piece of cake. The K and D resculpt infantry are in true mech scale and you can compare them to DA infantry here. Released first in 1988 with cardboard maps and again in 1991 with paper maps, with the same product number. I always justify it with things like ff armor is bulkier than standard, xl engines are bulkier than standard. The only known combat deployment of these hybrid ProtoMechs was during the Blakist strike against the Capellan Confederation world of Necromo in late 3071 and it is not known if they were the first of their kind or a technological dead end. However, this direct connection also means than the pilot can feel "pain" inflicted on their machine via neurological feedback not unlike that suffered by MechWarriors. The writers are imagining things that haven't been invented yet and often don't have the technical know how to know if something is feasible or not. What comes in the Latest "A game of armored combat"? Per pg20 Total Warfare, 'Mechs "stand eight to fourteen meters tall". Besides the standard biped ProtoMechs ranging from 2 to 9 tons, Ultraheavy ProtoMechs also exist ranging from 10 to 15 tons (overlapping in tonnage and capability with some BattleMechs), and there are also both Quadrupedal and Glider ProtoMechs.[15]. Books underneath can add some terrain variation. Great find! The Irresponsible Captain Tyler. Thanks. As such their agility falls somewhere between infantry and 'Mechs: they can move through most buildings with minimal collateral damage and can go from a prone to standing position in seconds. A high-quality neoprene map set (34"x 22" Inches) featuring different terrain, including biomes including Desert, Luna, Alpine, Savanna and Tundra. while lights usually are more spindly and thin. The zaku is a jumping heavy in battletech with a hand mounted autocannon. Hex sides were printed with various colors to show the changes in terrain features and elevations that could affect the use of certain abilities and equipment. In 2017 Ulisses Spiele released a new, original BattleTech Starterbox boxed set (not to be confused with the previous "Einsteigerbox"). It's top walking speed is 60 odd kph. Re: Official height (dimensions) of Mechs and Vehicles? Does it really matter if one mech is bigger than another in scale? The map is marked "Casus Belli 1994 Carte conue par Michal Salicetto, dessin Bernard Bittler BATTLETECH est un jeu dit par Jeux Descartes sous licence FASA". Kartenset 1: BattleForce & Scattered Woods, Kartenset 2: Desert Hills & Rolling Hills 1, Kartenset 5: Open Terrain 2 & CityTech Map, Kartenset 6: River Valley & Rolling Hills 2. Cubed square law means the bigger the structure the exponentially weaker it becomes. How's it sit? dropship/mech size comparison . A lot of the heights are derived from their Mecha inspirations out of anime. If one side has CBT minis and the other has the MWDA figs, it's going to look pretty stupid, but shouldn't affect gameplay. Vehicles and dropships are also compared as well. Unlike classification, the distinction between Large and Small WarShips does have certain effects under the game rules. well, darn. (Where if we present human can figure out buildings 40-50 stories easy, future human must have like hundred stories buildings . Is this true? WH40K - Imperim of Man: - Space Marine Terminator Armour (Exosuit) - Imperial Knight (light Mech) - Warhound Titan (medium Mech) - Reaver Titan (heavy Mech) - Warlord Titan (assault Mech) - Imperator Titan (super-heavy Mech) Image details. [10] The only Inner Sphere faction known to have moved beyond theoretical discussions was the Word of Blake, overcoming the control and pilot size issues with the development of an advanced pilot interface based off their Vehicular Direct Neural Interface technology, encasing a limbless Manei Domini in a life-support apparatus that was then sealed within a ProtoMech, the pilot maintained via intravenous nutrients and recycled biomatter. The infantry are comprable in size, but mounted differently. Wall-E (Axiom, Zephyrus and Epiglottus city ships, based on the size . Some clickie minis work pretty good alongside CBT-scale stuff. Most of these terms have survived since the Age of Sail, and were updated to reflect the realities of space combat. The downsides are it doesn't have hexes (unless you draw them) so we tend to use felt for Alpha Strike or inch movement. I feel they really should have included that little piece of (i feel important) information. So comparison shots. Lucky I found this post as I was wondering the same question and I have to say that, thanks to Sigma's pics (scales generally go over my head), the size differences on some of them is mad! Nonetheless, as the hexes are printed to the same size on paper and use the same map symbology the maps can be used interchangeably between these various BattleTech scales. Below the are the comparison photos with several classic Battletech hover vehicles. Of course CBT has never been about scale really but using the Clix as CBT probably wouldn't be too good of an idea. The cheap option is going to a local fabric store and get some felt. In early 2013 Catalyst Game Labs began publishing the MapPack series, PDF editions of previously published maps. 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