It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. All I know is my 1st CPX-2 had to be sent in for service 30 minutes after I got it home. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. SIG P238 Why Use a .380 Pistol? The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). The biggest improvement, by far, is the trigger pull. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. I would think a pocket gun would be best kept in .380 or 9mm. WebThe Roughneck series of derringers are similar in appearance to the well-known Bond Arms Backup models, but are more affordable. Theres room for disagreement, but probably only because some peoples pockets are bigger and can hold bigger guns. Because they unreasonably expected to consistently hit a bullseye at 50 yards with a pocket pistol? 3) SCCY Industries CPX-2(4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes). No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Women need to be told about the woman in Birmingham who was being robbed and pulled out a gun. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. Have you ever even shot one? It is light and works. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. And worst and I do mean worst of all is the Magazine release, which might be the most poorly placed, poorly designed and impossible mag release on any gun ive ever handled. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. Personally, Id avoid far more than just the bottom six. Do not yank the magazine friends. I have SCCY CPX2 Best gun ever Just keep it clean 400 rounds down range 400 rounds on target Ill bet my life on my cpx2. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. Simple, easy and the Beretta Pico is in fact one of the most mild shooting Pocket Pistols out there. He rated it 2.5 stars out of 5 and wrote, I dont hate it. Still, thats pretty tepid, and our readers rate it well below average. They know media though. Since I dont know whether or not your going to use it for EDC, I will recommend one full size and one small one which i think are the 2 best IMO. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). WebThe .380 Auto (ACP) Pistol is most often used for self-defense, and is a particularly good choice for concealed carry thanks to its small size. So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. the problem with your rating site is that it is seriously flawed. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. But thats just me Not everyone places as much weight on user ratings as I do. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. check the ammo?? The PPK established a defining influence on the design of concealed carry firearms. I would even venture to say its a 50/50 gamble when buying a Kel Tec. Otherwise, their opinion may mean nothing. No thanks. Springfield operator: 5.2 Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. Horrible, awful trigger. I own a hp380. TTAG has some of the worst reviewers in history. These arent big enough vote pools anyway. capacity. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. I have 2 of them. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Im in the habit of buying less costly weapons and fully expect to tinker a bit with them to produce a smooth running hot brass pile maker. Shoot to make the thug dead. You sound smart. Small, accurate and reliable. i used to own a keltec p11. The CW380 sucks. +1. How so? The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. I used to have one. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. I just dont see the silent u in that. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Bought it brand new. What utter nonsense! I love the Pico. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. I understand its not for everyone but its a good quality firearm with excellent customer service. Uh no. They are well known for their % of guns that have failure rates compared to the ones that dont. Avoid Straight Blowback pistols These have a barrel permanently affixed to the frame versus the Delayed Blowback pistols, who have a barrel th The mag will spring out when done correctly. Hence why Hipoints explode when high pressure rounds are put in them or dont feed reliably when hollowpoints are used. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). Recently we exchanged and shot each others weapon, I have a Taurus LCP 380. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). My advice. If its good Ill spread the word. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. The Mag release is a piece of cake. OMG! The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Super gun, works every time. Just like Fords. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. The Ring of Fire guns are small, super They still fall back to the limp wrist and ammo excuses. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. Hellcat 380. You really missed this one. I have received grief for it as well. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. The Picos have a huge fan base. Sure just Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. Now I feel like I have t fire the XDS 9MM again before I trust it, Really shook me up when I casually pressed the trigger and got a light clunk. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. Every gun has its limitations and knowledge goes a long way to ensure a positive outcome when it happens. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. To send it back would cost to much and the internet dealer would not stand behind it !! How is it possibly at the top of the list? It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. I think it would have to be the 2mm Kolibri. Its the worlds smallest handgun, and develops just 4 joules of muzzle energy. Its not a joke weapon Actually bought a second one. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. Jimenez was one former name for Cobra also Loren was also a former name . Lol, it is more than obvious that John Hope does not have a clue about the Beretta Pico. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. You can buy 1911s now. The trigger is about smooth and deliberate. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. I found that many mags for the Hellcat where not cut properly with too much play at the catch. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. Simple the heaviest with the most complicated recoil driven action. That being said my 9yr old daughter has no issue with 380 recoil in a 12ounce g The sccy is very similar. You can get these on line at times for They are all solid, dependable, and reliable. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? I. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. It jammed after the first shot, but he hit the intruder in the chest. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. It came back still not fixed. Only time I tried one I did not like it. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Its almost like clockwork, at about the 5th round itll turn the shell sideways then the returning bolt will grab it. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). Have you put more than a box through it? (Though they have better triggers than the early LCPs, thats not enough), You should try mine. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Or the Kahr in there? Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? 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