I want to dedicate long term to this girl as that is what I like to do when I commit to a relationship but I'm terrified that I will end up wasting a large amount of time on a girl who will end up cheating on me or blowing up in my face. Thats roughly a new guy each month. about you. If a woman has been with multiple men and ashamed to tell the current man in her life, in my opinion that makes her dishonest. If the man I marry is from my state, hell definitely know someone I went to school with. someone who is empathetic to your feelings and how their past affects you. behavior about those numbers. They need to evaluate if this man is worthy, if he will stick around, if he will man up and assist her in raising the child or at the very least pay child support. Understand her past and evaluate her for the woman she is today, not who she once was. 18 Reply r3l_b 4 yr. ago This is relevant because babies can also stem from sexnot just disease and promiscuous nonsense. Keep in mind, you have no money in your 20s. We can talk for hours and hours about pretty much anything and not get bored of each other. Yep! Hes trying to get me to be faithful. It just means that when a man meets a woman he has great interest in, he shouldnt walk away from that simply because she had high numbers in her past. Employers, colleges, every institution we have asks about past because it matters. Men do not. Love isnt about sex. So in applying it to what you just said. That they must pay the price of their previous mistake (choice) and who they once were is how I will judge them today. God did not create us to be WHORES, and I am referring to both Men and Women. Take that Woman, Do as I say and not as I do double standard mindset and flush it down the toilet! Please tell me what has changed at that point. And, dude, Im going to say this to you, and then Ill be signing off. It has been made apart of this life, but not apart of eternal life..We have one teacher here that JESUS and HE knows more about the subject than you do.In The Book of Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers GOD will judge. I guess it really doesnt matter. Say what.. youre incel? Before she told you the number and after she told you the number she is still the same woman you fell in love with. However, promiscuity is not gender based. There are so many things that enrage me about this article and the post below that I dont know where to begin Let me begin by saying that I am infuriated by the ignorance that surrounds this topic and the comments below. So lets say you meet a woman and start to date her. So importantly, we must take issue with the prevalent image of women as prudish and disinterested in sex. Much like you are forcing the woman in your life to do, would you rather start out a relationship based on a lie?. Thank you Jessica : ) and you raise an awesome point. You need both to function but then again so do women. Sure, that is what many men (especially those who are getting up there) say. That's what these things do. Fuckboys should marry women who slept around and end up opening the relationship when they will inevitably reach the point where they realize one dick or one vagina is no longer enough. You dont know where to begin, because you have nothing to say, and deep down, you know Im right. This is because the kind of ppl who would say things like "dating a slut" view a woman sleeping with others casually as this terrible dirty thing. Its not the most important factor. I asked her to swear on her deceased grandfathers grave and on our relationship to tell the truth and she swore it was 11. And know that there will be days your not overwhelmed in thought. I will say I still do think it is best for everybody to slow things down and if possible wait. Its not your fault. Making a guy cum seems to be a quick fix for their insecurities. Thank goodness the world is full of people with different view points, and a moderate amount of people who are willing to scratch below the surface. Still, a pregnancy or disease can and does occur. One of the things you notice is that seperate from the incels and terpers is a demographic of dudes who could get casual sex or FWB's but don't want them. So when women say that having sex with lots of men is somehow acting like men, they are wrong. Oh yes it does. Just relax. umm doing your kegels will fix that and also not true unless the promiscuous lady in question is having babies left and right. If you I completely disagree with your statement that most women divorce because they have affairs. Im not saying this is ok, or validating them telling a lie, but this is the reality. and she does not like sex and has never had an orgasm. So the numbers are irrelevant. All by the help of the Queen mother . If I was looking for a Woman, I DO care about her past, and she should care about mines. But she was still a really nice lady, and from what I hear pretty good at sex. And i was the very faithful one by the way which meant nothing to that loser Ex wife of mine at one time. You have always been a dreamer, but you've never thought that your dreams will come true. He sais it in a pretty comical way too! Also women (and some men) get bored quickly these days. The only problem with yr case is you did what you did. Why are we so stuck on this? Sex isnt just for men. Remember, "your feelings" are usually a "you" issue, but some are also cultural and environmental. I just feel that the issues are deeper than sex or promiscuity. Think its unfair? Maybe you would feel like you have one over on other people because you have you do? 1. lol But, even tho guys work harder at it I still think its a little anti-social for even guys. The past does matter, because granted imagine sleeping with the man or woman, exchanging fluids. With that said, dont expect all these women to reveal this information. A mess you gonna have these women out here single and lonely.. Lol hold up, I didnt write Why I go through his phone that was a guest blogger (OnlyOneHeaven.com) but I did write this article. He is the ALPHA and the OMEGA. It is what it is, but the most important part is your STD FREE!!!!! Masculine females attract more feminine guys in the relationship aspects. But what we all know is that everyone has a past. The Student Room and The Uni Guide are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd. Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. i admit i do have trust issues but these men now days get around. I think Im old enough to understand that and act accordingly. This is still me Just go. hide ourselves in does not preclude that: it is a make or break answer. Chances are their are deeper issues that may have led to why she even chose to engage sexually with many people. Im female, but Im not emotional, insecure or needy. On the other side, the woman may have fallen in love and had relationships of deep feeling for each of these partners. I love people who stand their ground and see things in black and white, right and wronglife is easiest for them. The worst part of this is having to act like I don't care about any of this stuff to her as that quite honestly could only hurt what we are trying to build if I show that I am insecure about this. N women should respect themselves, and men should as well! All in all if you truly love someone I think it shouldnt matter. And our son, how would he view women? I dont think the number should matter, personally. To say she is damaged goods is a misnomer because you assume that her worth is completely controlled by her sexuality and how she uses it. Also, No, my perceptions are no more divorced from reality than yours, or those of anyone else. The West is the last, civilized group that needs to comment You can question the theory of evolution, or gravity, or anything else, but your questioning doesnt impugn their validity. We put our best feet forward, so to speak. You think we want you all used up. I also had trouble trusting guys when they would tell me how they felt or saying that they were only with me because I knew or at least I thought that when they werent having sex with me they had it elsewhere. What a feminist wet dream Maybe it should not matter but it does. And I ask you, why ride the Datson if youre looking for the Benz? But if a woman slept with 20 men and didnt know half of them, then it could be safe to consider her as a hoe. If you want to examine the paper, look it up yourself. It's a case of attraction. that will always be what it is and now you know it is most likely to be a If sex shouldnt be used to judge someone then nothing else about that persons past should be of any relevance because after all, theyre in the past. ?Still not got the point of it. You could play an important role in her life, and teach her how lovely a LTR can be. Choices are Lastly, a man will respect you if he respects himself and others, especially women. Furthermore, I think that guys that dont care about their partners It is the little matter of lying about the past that makes it untennable. Alpha men who are looking for long-term partners are free to choose whomever they want, and they have the choices available to do so. I checked out this study and there is so much I can say. Women lie about their past(and men know it) and Men in turn lie about love and marriage . @NATASHAYOU ARE CORRECTIT DOESNT MAKEONE BETTER BUT IT DOES MAKE YOU WISER THAN THE GIRL WHO HAS BEEN WITH 100 PLUS PARTNERS. Its a selfish attempt to keep a woman to yourself even if you dont have feelings for her, you want her to keep her pussy tight. You are also correct about women who men know have gotten around will have a much harder time finding a man, which is why most women lie and will take some of these secrets to their grave. Start this quiz to find your result. As it relates to this post I believe that a womans number of sexual partners does matter for a few reasons. If u need to walk away sometimes and have a breath of fresh air. On the other hand. Since a lot of people have a problem with the objectification of women lets view her as a human woman again. Ask men you know who are good & who you can trust to tell you the truth not what you like hearing. Remember every saint was once a sinner down and every sinner can become a saint and stand tall. Now if she has actually slept with 80% of her male friends and she still associates with them, then I can see where that may be to tough of a pill to swallow. Would you still judge her as nothing more than a whore or was she simply a victim of a horrible act and didnt know or wasnt able to get the help to properly handle it. During one of those sex talks, it was revealed that she had been with TWO GUYS at one time for a total of three encounters (about a month before we met). Think about this. Like religious zealots, progressive zealots do the same thing; denying objective truths unfortunate truths but nevertheless, truths that do exist. Ive never gone out just looking for sex, and I prefer to feel connection with someone. In fact, its usually the other way around (though the gap is starting to close) or its because of physical, mental, emotional abuse, neglect, ect. Will you feel it is worth walking away from this amazing woman because a couple of years ago she was once promiscuous. I hold men and women to the same standard. Of course you agree. You just got the best husband around! forgotten how to be committed. If I trusted someone and it came up, I If she chooses to sleep with all 10 men that makes her easy. What I am saying is I dont feel it is best to allow that to overshadow everything else that is great about this woman and the fact that you believe she is best from you (aside from a possible past you arent too happy about). We all make mistakes, but many of us do learn from them and move in a better direction. If you love this woman and she has not slept with you best friend or someone close to you I feel you should really work on getting over it and see where this relationship can take you both. So if that woman is open and honest enough to tell that man her numbers, he may walk away from her before he even learns that she now does share the same values as he does. If she's interested, there's clearly no problems from her end. One small example would be crying Acceptable for women over many small things, not acceptable for men..I doubt many women would be attracted to guys who cried almost daily over any small thing. Because most men are not comfortable, this is why many women lie about it. Just settle because the other person isnt perfect. Any guy walking around claiming to be the son of God, with convincing ID, should be locked up or exterminates..By the way, that goers for child molesters also, such as the Prophet Mohommid. Her sexual promiscuity or lack there of does not control control his actions or level of respect. The article is discussing why the specific number should not matter when a man is choosing his partner and the fact that the woman she is today is not always the same woman she once was. Very true, plenty of sluts attempt to hide their sluttiness through subterfuge, yet they inevitably give off tells. someone, you want to not only know about who they are, but who they hint 4: take some time and really dissect the roots of these feelings and separate them from the trigger events. Most of these women are 21-27 years old. Studs work for every notch in there belt. I never said I wanted to date you or anyone like you, so your comment, No one is saying you have to date us, is a bit of a non-sequitor. And, after that, he paid the most endearing miraculous amazing act on our behalf. about their past. believe to be productive and positive ways to deal with these issues. So, we all have desires we better not fulfill. issue out, then you should get out. As Oprah said (excuse me if I misquote) If you know better, do better. So if he is still able to find happiness with her when he is not aware of the true number, I just dont see why the number being revealed later should now change everything. It is actually a fact that the more partners a woman has had, the more likely the marriage is to fail, source:https://socialpathology.blogspot.com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html So a young fertile woman was his best bet. So clearly Im not assuming old-fashioned = not a slut. Ive always been that way since I started having sex. I dont play the who slept with who game. I even recall my mother saying on several occasions how she would have probably married another man. If a woman only shares her body with those she loves then it means more to be with her. B) Twenty sex partners, had sex a total of 100 times. Official University of the Arts London 2023 Applicants Thread, Official University of Bristol 2023 Applicant Thread, Official Imperial College 2023 Undergraduate Applicants Thread, Sutton Trust US Programme Cohort 12 (2023) Applicants Thread. I understand where you are coming from, but I do not fully agree. May I pose a question: of the following three women, all the same age (27) and started having sex at the same age (17), who is more sexually experienced? This isnt about telling women it is good or ok to have a lot of sex partners. Men stand to lose their homes, assets and children even when they were the ones who honored their vows, to have and to hold, for better or worse. This is how I feel. Fast Stream 2023 (Reinstated) applicants thread. love you back! Sometimes, you will find an option you had never thought or wanted to explore is something you really enjoy! Women whether it be in the past, or in modern times, created an image that they must live up to. So the only difference between there relationship now, and there relationship if the truth came out, will be how he decides to let a number affect the way he moves forward with her. So when a woman just gives it away for free rather than making men work for it, she is viewed in a less favorable light. Big breasts which are an indication of youth (because old ones sag), long hair which is a sign of health (because malnourished people have brittle hair that breaks off), hourglass figure, high cheek bones, and pouty lips (all signs of high estrogen or fertility). would want a man who thinks this way, otherwise, she is going to just end with I think Id have to agree with Sharona. Right..so why would I want her after all that wear and tear.LOL Id rather all that Wear and Tear come from me. I think it would be best for everybody to wait or minimize how many people they have sex with, but that does not change the fact that we should not judge a woman based on her past. I would feel disgusted if I would know my wife had slept with so many men, For those who think they are not even obliged to say how many people they have slept with is like the ones who think that they can cheat as long as their husband does not find out it is living a lie and if your husband would ever find out you could have a bad surprise because he is not aware on who he is living with and he can get as disgusted as I do , You had the fun? Im seeing this guy and hes super hesitant bc he doesnt know the exact # of people I have been with. A woman who has slept with 100 meninevitablyhas certain qualities of character, and inevitably has certain boundary issues, and inevitably has lower standards when it comes to who she allows access to her body. And no one will understand fully if they didnt make a similar choice. well now endure the consecuences you will find people who doesnt care but you will also face that there are people who cares. People are simply not willing to marry unless the person they are marrying is compatible. That level of promiscuity speaks to a character defect. Though we choose to connect her baggage to the amount of partners she has had, it really isnt about the actual number. So I completely understand where you are coming from and again I think it is a very good arguement. Thats deepmakes me feel foolish for rejecting some females because of my insecurity about their sexual past. If he looks upset, I'll just say something like, 'I'm sorry,' when he stops talking. How detailed you can get depends on how much your lover can take. That is all the article is trying to say. Stefan probably didnt realize this was true while he was writing the article or even now. 1. Posted August 24, 2015. That's pretty low for a guy". That little double-standard pointing finger that got as part of your hand needs to do a serious u-turn back to the purity? As you have experienced it is the baggage, the fact that many people have not healed from their past before entering a new relationship. You can probably answer that. I hope you are able to get your anger issues under control. A lot of men would have a problem respecting and trusting a woman that is currently on or has been on the hoe stroll as you call it. Ugh. I dont see how this article will have women single and lonely. Because I love him too much to have him leave me over my past like those other men have. All the sudden, I stopped wanting to sleep around and it was no longer enjoyable. Press J to jump to the feed. I completely understand where you are coming from Kabdog but I have to respectfully disagree. Can it work out with an ex a bit further down the line? I can see it now. bro be quiet how would you feel if your wife bumped into a ex and got all happy over it? Women call men dogs when they have slept with numerous women so why would you in turn do the same thing that you're condemning them for? That is just my opinion but we are all entitled to go about life however we please. And if I never read this post again and some young man is dealing with the same situation. And since passing on your genes is the most important thing, he is attracted to women most able to get pregnant. where does it say about the divorce rate comparison, never seen that, but i do know it said that women who are more educated behave more lower class, In addition, women residing in the bible belt who marry earlier have the highest divorce rates, about 5% higher than the divorce rate of atheists (who are sexually more permissive, on average): https://atheism.about.com/od/atheistfamiliesmarriage/a/AtheistsDivorce.htm. Here's a revelation: people are entitled to their own judgments. Yes Linda I agree. Being promiscuous is bad for both men and women. Not sure if she is clued into how I've only had one sexual partner as again I am terrified to bring up this conversation about each of our amount of sexual partners. Because right now it sounds a lot like, Its true because I say it is. Cut it out and replace it with positive experiences. Stephen are u being real? 9 d. 395 opinions shared on Marriage & Weddings topic. Third, women have the power of their womb. It does not matter if a women thinks average is great, or claims that, it only matters that in our male mind we dont like feeling insecure with the women that should make us feel secure every time we engage in the most intimate of acts with her for the rest of our life. If you're honest more than likely you wouldn't. I am 31 years Is she in to me or just a touchy best friend? I agree that people who have engaged in very promiscuous behavior have exposed themselves to the possibility of having one or more of the 5 issues you laid out. what associations are you making in regard to the fears and concerns you might have? Couple days later it turned to 9. There are 7 common signs a woman is perceived as low value to all men, because men simply perceive value differently to women. By your logic, if we make no judgments on our potential mates, and the past doesnt matter, it should not matter if our potential mate was a child rapist for 20 years, as long as s/he isnt currently raping children. Not always, but often. Modern times, have I was married before her and would still be married had my first wife been half the woman she is! She's independent, classy, carries herself well, acts like a lady, has standards for who she sleeps with, doesn't disclose unnecessary information about her sex life, and she certainly doesn't let men disrespect her, because she respects herself. Its about having standards that say, as a man, if Im going to marry and commit my life to someone, its going to be someone with the self-respect and characterto have not been a whore. whether or not she has a(n) std(s)) is very important concerning the number of partners that she's had but if a woman tells a man that she's slept with 3 men and neglects to add the 0 at the end of that, she's being dishonest and that violates the principle of another post that you made (4 keys to starting and maintaining a successful relationship) previously. I have actually come Remember that 50 years ago it was men who mostly had the affairs and was generally accepted that wives take it because boys will be boys. Being promiscuous is not always a conscious decision. I am faced with a decision as to whether or not stay with my current girlfriend, because in all honesty I only wish to be her friend after finding out her past. Hey Mike. Well written! If a woman chooses to be a slut, there is a price to pay for that behavior with many men who will forever disqualify her from consideration as a serious partner to settle down with. I might ride in it a Part of that process takes proper communication. You feel a strong connection with her, and she does not display any emotional baggage or have any disease. For instance, you are judging that other woman for judging other women. Why do you like her? If I were a man, I wouldnt want to be with a woman and everytime we leave the house fear bumping into one of her former sex partnerswhat does she have to give her husband if she has given it to 100 men? If he never asks or she never gives him a specific number then I do not think we should put that in the same category as a cheating wife. From evolutionary perspective, what women are seeking in a man is strength; somebody who is some combination of physically strong, self-assured, able to shape their environment rather than having the environment shape them, socially dominant, and someone who not only has the ability to acquire valuable assets but also the desire to share those assets with his woman. Do you realize that technically men can be hoes to, so should we say Cant turn a hoe into a Husband? We all have issues, so we have no right to be so quick to judge, and look down on others for their perceived issue. irrelevance of your girlfriend/wifes number of sexual partners is If they pass some one that they slept with on the street the best thing to do is ignore them. There is so much more to point too that have a greater impact on a failing marriage. 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